KiddeAccessPoint 001413 KeySafe Original Slimline Push Button Combination Permanent Key Lock Box, 2-Key, White

I’m tired of having to give my garage code out to anyone that has to get into my house when I’m away then have to go through the hassle of changing it over and over again. So I was looking for a small hide a key that I could put in a discreet location.I had found a very nice and sturdy electric one with a light on it but it was too big for the little space that I had. After much searching I came across this small one which can hold two keys, small or medium, but nothing more.When it arrived I studied it trying to figure out how to set the codes and struggled a bit until I looked up a video on YouTube. Once seeing it, it was pretty easy. The trick is being able to see the very faint arrows on the back of the numbers, if you wear cheaters you’re gonna wanna get them out. Once the code was set I stuck my two keys in and attached the top of my lock to the base which was easily installed to the door frame. The lock is extremely sturdy and waterproof.Despite the initial confusion and frustration of learning how to set the lock code, which now takes me seconds, it is a great lock and great value for the price!

Some reveiwers seem to think that since the numbers can be entered in any order this product is worthless. They also make a big deal about only being able to use each number once. Other reviews suggest "upgrading" the mounting hardware.The instructions list how many possible combinations there are based on how many numbers you use. I believe 5 numbers yields the most combinations which is over 200.First of all a thief would have to first guess how MANY numbers you used. How on earth are they going to know that? Then they would have to try every combination of that length of numbers. Keep in mind that EVERY time you enter a series of numbers you have to try the open button. As soon as you do that the lock resets and you have to start again. Every attempt a thief makes using more or less numbers than you chose is simply additional wasted time and exposure.If you really think a thief is going to sit there and keep trying while also trying to remember which combo of 200 possible number sets they've tried without using a large note pad or an excel spreadsheet you do not understand the criminal mind. Thieves fear exposure and observation and move on to easier targets.The smart ones won't even bother, they'll just kick in the most out of sight door or throw a brick through a window. The dumb ones will do the same after wasting time in a futile attempt to open this box. The end result is the same. If a thief wants to get into your house, they will get in without wasting time trying to get your precious key.Next: Mounting hardware. The screws that come with this box are perfectly adequate in length, size and strength. Using the screws provided will yield a box that requires a sledge hammer, crowbar or reciprocating saw to remove. All of those methods make a hell of a lot of noise and we all know thieves like to draw a lot of attention to themselves right? Ah, no.But then, guess what? Even if they do get the box off they still have to open the damm thing!I can tell you that is going to require AT LEAST a hack saw and a nice bench vise.That said, I could open this box in about 7 seconds with a cordless angle grinder.When is the last time you saw suspicious characters walking around with angle grinders?I will say this. You must drill pilot holes in wood for the provided screws or you'll wind up stripping the heads when your driver bit "cams-out". Or, yes, you could use Torx screws to eliminate cam-out. The fact remains, the strength of the fasteners is a non-issue.If you still want this box but you're concerned about any of these issues just mount the box out of sight, and preferably somewhere where tools can't get any leverage or purchase on it. Thats' what I did. It's not readily visible and only my family members know where it is.Otherwise this box is not for you. Buy one of those "hide-a key" rocks and put it in the garden. The reason I didn't go that route is we have a yard service and it would be highly probable that someone would eventually flip that fake rock over. Also, we have guests we let come over when we're not in town. Try telling them which rock to look under?Nope. Just get this box, mount it out of sight and only disseminate the number to trusted parties.So, this box is perfectly adequate for me. Built like a tank, easy to use.The only time I would worry about this box if if I found it missing completely because that would mean the thief knocked it off, took it and now has time and access to tools to cut it open. At that point it would be time to re-key my locks.

The entry door handle on the fire door between our house & garage is a Schlage F-series, and the way that lock is designed, it's awfully easy to walk into the garage, and inadvertently lock the door behind you. I didn't want to simply leave a spare key hanging by the garage door, because (i) it could easily get lost and (ii) it's not at all secure. So, I bought this Kidde keysafe to store the key. By mounting it on the wall, it won't get lost; and obviously it's much more secure than hanging the key by the door - though see below for more comments on the box's security.It's a very solid box. It's far heavier than it looks - really very sturdy. It's easy to set your desired code. You activate each number of your chosen code by twisting a little screw on the back of the "door". Then you test the code by pressing the relevant buttons, and sliding the "Open" key down -- the metal tab at the top of the door should slide down freely, allowing you to insert the door into the body of the box; you then release the "open" button, the tab slides up, and the keysafe is locked.As other reviewers have pointed out, after you have set your code, the ORDER in which you push the buttons doesn't matter; so if you activate buttons 4, 5, 6, & 7, you'd probably remember your code as "4567", but in fact the box also will open if you enter 7654, or 5647, etc.. The way it works also means that you cannot make a code that re-uses a number; for example, you cannot set a code of "4456" because each number -- in this case, 4 -- can be used only once.The box allows 1023 possible codes. The installation instructions tell the user to select a code comprising 5, 6 or 7 numbers (i.e., to activate 5, 6 or 7 buttons), but using 5 buttons gives you the most possible combinations. Detailed math is below.......If you activate 5 buttons, you can generate 252 different codes ( 10*9*8*7*6 divided by 5*4*3*2*1).If you activate 4 or 6 buttons, each has 210 possible codes.If you activate 3 or 7 buttons, each has 120 possible codes.If you activate 2 or 8 buttons, each has 45 possible codes.If you activate 1 or 9 buttons, each has 10 possible codes.If you activate all 10 buttons, there is only 1 possible code (since the order in which the buttons are pressed is not important)This adds up to a total of 1023 possible codes. Of course, as other reviewers have said, there is no way for a thief to know how many buttons you have used in your code, which means that (for example) if you use a 5-digit code, the thief's chance of opening the box each time he enters a combination isn't really 1 in 252 (which it would be if he KNEW that you'd chosen a 5-digit code). Nevertheless, purely in terms of the number of unique codes that can be used, this type of box does fall way short of the more traditional "rotating" 4-digit (4 wheel) combination locks, which allow 10,000 (10^4) codes, and even further short of electronic locks that allow you to (i) select the number of digits to use in your code; (ii) re-use each digit and (iii) respect the order in which the digits are entered.The garage itself is protected by one of these more sophisticated electronic pushbutton locks, which has lots of possible combinations so, for my usage of this keysafe, I was not too worried about the number of possible combinations.